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    Three reasons why the latest IIM admission criteria make no sense to me
    by Parasharan Chari in CAT, Admission criteria, CAT 2012 on 23 January '12


    It wont be wrong to say that this has been one of the most controversial years for securing an admission into a top Indian b-school. It is unbelievable how the Common Admission Test (CAT) has transformed from an unassailable test to one whose credibility is not fully convincing anymore.


    There was a time when the 'best prepared' students used to adapt to the unpredictable CAT pattern on the spot and come out victorious. Nowadays the formula to success in the CAT has changed --- it is now more gender-dependent, slot-dependent, day-dependent, normalisation-dependent and graduation-dependent. Candidates always used to pray hard for a good result, but now they do not know how many parameters to individually pray for!


    Here are some questions intriguing me about admission criteria that I wish to put forth to our top b-schools to see if there is any sound logic to the un-obvious logic that is staring us in our faces this year.


    1. Application Rating: Please, for once, justify the Application Rating (AR) concept that the Indian Institute of Management (IIM), Ahmedabad has come up with and try to help me with an answer to this question,


    For aspirant A with 80% in 10th and 12th and 79.9% in graduation, the AR is 18.

    For aspirant B with 80% in 10th and 12th and 80.1% in graduation, the AR is 27.


    If A scores a 100 percentile in CAT and B a 98 percentile, then by the formula given by IIM Ahmedabad, B is better because of the minor 0.2% he has scored more in graduation, isn't it?


    Is it proportionate and fair to be penalised with nine AR points for scoring 1% (approx 6 marks) less in 12th standard in some random subject? Is it not more sensible to consider a pro-rata system? If I have 75%, give me a 2.5 application rating, if I have a 78%, give me 2.8, but at least give me a fair shot!


    2. The push for gender and non-engineering background: I am an MBA graduate from a reputed b-school. I was NEVER taught that management lessons were gender dependent. However, on trying really hard to understand the reason behind there being a gender push in some of the IIM criteria, I realised that there was a larger interest involved of helping an under-represented section of the society (women) join the corporate mainstream. Moreover, theoretically speaking, generally every industry tries to balance the demand-supply gap --- and hence it is probably the industry which has been demanding the right balance of gender ratio in b-school batches.


    I am also an Engineer-MBA. I understand that engineers are a 'confused genre'. They are said to select the CAT route just because they do not want to take up technical roles but at the same time they are not 100% sure why they want to do an MBA either! But then, when you think of it, they have been the ones to take the CAT the most seriously and crack into the topmost percentiles.


    I also know that for a BCom or BBA graduate, it is only a logical continuation of education to get a management degree. They have been the more focussed of the lot and had decided at least three years in advance to get into business related education.


    However, rather than discriminating between genders and educational backgrounds post-results, it makes greater sense to include a section in the test that segregates the engineers from the others say a section on business, general knowledge, accountancy, etc. If crafted well, this section can serve the purpose of managing the required portfolio of the batch.


    Either that, or the admissions process should be made explicitly subjective and based on essays explaining one's goals after MBA, statements of purpose and recommendation letters, so that people know exactly what direction to work hard in. If a non-engineer is able to convince the admissions committee of a better use of their MBA than another engineer with a better qualifying test score, then let the non-engineer deservingly get the seat. But let us at least know what we ought to be good at!


    What is instead happening now, is that despite having worked hard to ace the CAT, having just 0.2% less marks in graduation and not being from the correct educational background or gender can lay my toiling waste. Is this fair?


    3. University-percentage standards mismatch: 80% is the desired cut-off. Agreed! Does 80% mean the same across the multitude of India's universities? Is there such level of standardisation across universities that a graduate scoring an 80% from Mumbai University means the same as that from Pune University or Gujarat University or Kurukshetra University or Anna University? There is a HUGE gap in the scoring patterns across the country's undergraduate institutions. Are the IIMs making straightforward comparisons between scores from different universities or are they making equalisations or corrections based on historical data?


    With no clear answers to the above questions, all I can do is wish the IIMs good luck in their pursuit of admitting the 'best batch' this year, pun intended.



    The author Parasharan Chari is an alumnus of SP Jain and is currently serving as the Chief Operating Officer at Ahmedabad-based Endeavor Careers and is also associated with the design and development of its online testing portal www.CatGurus.com.

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    • Vijay699 @achilles_kill.. dude maza aa gaya.. what a reply !!
      #241 • 28 Jan '12 Like
    • techsurge @ triple a and others who did mba before cat went online. U r really lucky. For us its like chasing a wild dream called iim. Its no more give ur best, even if u get more than 99, ur dream college may shun u
      #242 • 28 Jan '12 Like
    • yukay shit dude!! y did i even think of missing IRMA gd/pi n appearing for CAT 2012...m never gonna get an IIM call cz my university guys dont give marks above 65%...so dts hw my acads wd look X-90% XII-87% B.Com-65% or so cz m still in my last year!! Now IIMs are gonna get the brightest minds of India...moat of them coming from private Engineering colleges with scores no less than 80% in graduation!!
      #243 • 29 Jan '12 Like 1
    • ashishpai2001 @iimguy:: Dude, 99.8, sectionals Q: 98.5+ V: 99.5+ Sole grace IIM C + 6 new IIMs. L just PGP Imagine, won't give CAT next year now, either this year, or Short Service Commission from Indian Navy
      #244 • 29 Jan '12 Like
    • ashishpai2001 L - ABM *
      #245 • 29 Jan '12 Like
    • cognizant_81 @ashish pai how many accurate attempts did umake in VA ability to get 99.5
      #246 • 29 Jan '12 Like 1
    • Mr_Tortoise i totally agree with the columnist. one solution to this can be while filling the forms there should be POP up u have 65% in 12th from Bihar Board,even you get 100%ile you will not get call from Ahmadabad and Kozikode.Do you still want to apply just for satisfaction. You can try our competitor IIM C who can take care of you in case you score well in CAT. Try next life since you have not done well in your 12th. Do you want me take up 12th Exam now at the age of 28 and prove that i was not interested in studying that time but now i am. Guess IIMA/K profs....should read this.
      #247 • 29 Jan '12 Like
    • koolraj this merry-go round is not exactly new. Last year I had scored 99.84 percentile and had above 85 % le in my 10th, 12th exams and a cgpa more than 8 in my graduation. But still i did nit have calls from IIMs A and B !!
      #248 • 29 Jan '12 Like
    • young_monk Just to have another perspective: http://insideiim.com/why-new-selection-criteria-makes-sense/
      #249 • 29 Jan '12 Like
    • appy_fiz fully agreed with article and comments......atleast kisine to bola...grttt...but now wht...it will be greatest when some changes done on equal basis in selection criteria...
      #250 • 30 Jan '12 Like
    • sikusantanu Professors from IIM A and B....go to hell....u deserve that... ,,!,
      #251 • 30 Jan '12 Like
    • funaholic Agreed.. Even if I manage to get a 100%ile in CAT, I wouldn't be deemed 'worthy' of getting even a gd/pi call from IIM-K.. And why? Just because 16 years of my education was under the State Board.. And it was rendered 'useless'. 92.5% in 12th Boards equals 5 points out of 20.. Has CAT become a mere formality now? I was proud of the exam and the honor associated with being a 99%iler.. Not anymore.
      #252 • 31 Jan '12 Like
    • titans8050 ok in the name of diversity you give weightage to 10/12 ....agreed..that gives a much better picture about consistency of a student. But that is being followed by all the IIMs but then why IIMA & IIMK have this application rating & ridiculous normalization , they could have also followed the method of IIM-C,L & I for that matter. But no ......
      #253 • 31 Jan '12 Like
    • imcoolrvid The B schools also need to do away with the 'weightage' allocation and move to profile based screening and adopt a subjective approach to evaluating a candidate. The concept of just having some Z score and normalization of scores is UTTER NON-SENSE. By saying that they can judge a student by looking at his 10, 12 and graduation marks, the IIMs have indicated that they can judge a book by looking at its cover, the number of pages, and the price. The IIMs should first conduct the CAT and then allow all above 95 percentile or say 90 percentile to send their resume. A panel of experts should scan the applications based on the overall profile and not just some board or graduation marks. A guy P who got 90% in class 10 but cleared NTSE and Maths Olympiad is obviously better than the guy Q with 93% and no other achievement. A guy P who got 79% in class 12 but studied Electrical Engineering from IIT Kanpur is obviously better than the guy Q with 90% who got admission in the local Jai Maa Durga Engineering College. A guy P from IIT Kanpur who got 75% but had 10 international publications and won many national level competitions during his bachelor's degree is obviously better than the guy Q from Jai Maa Durga Engineering College who got 90% by copying during exams, assisted by his college. Sadly, under the present circumstances, P will be rated far below Q, which is an absolute shame. P, who cleared NTSE and Olympiad, studied Electrical Engineering in IIT Kanpur, had 10 international publications and scores of national level achievements, who was a brilliant student but was not very marks oriented, WILL "NOT" GET THE IIM CALL. Q, who is a very average student and has never even thought of having a national level achievement, but studied only for the upcoming exam and did nothing else, WILL GET THE IIM CALL. This is why India is not the right place for talent. It is a direct statement that only mug-up-and-vomit-out attitude is respected in India. And yes, the IIMs have STANDARDIZED the prayer for all GEMs (General Engineer Males) of the country--- "AGLE JANAM MOHE BITIYA HI KIJO"....
      #254 • 07 Feb '12 Like 7
    • rishabh3374 #1 I still cannot understand the Engg - Commerce grads students intake issue or diversity as they call it.. It is as simple as drinking tea ; whether you are from Engg or Commerce Or Arts background if you don't score , it is his/her mistake. Why the hell should a non-science candidate get benefit from it ? Aren't there enough reservation already ? #2 Now , another point is the marking criteria of few Graduation Universities. In some universities even 70 is hard to get. So does that mean , if a person is scoring good in 10 & 12 and he gets in the 60s .. then some IIMs won't call him/her despite a good score ? That is why , I respect C & XLRI. - A commerce graduate [BBA]
      #255 • 20 Apr '12 Like 1
    • mehtajay I had some doubts regarding the admission process of the IIM's. 1)When they say SSC/HSC marks >80%, do they mean an average of 80% in all subjects or best of 5/4 subjects respectively, like students in the ISC board have? 2)\I would want to know if having an arrear in college affects your chances of getting into either IIM A/B/C or XLRI/SP Jain. What if I manage to clear my arrear papers before I apply to the IIM's and appear for my CAT? Does having an arrear mean one cannot make it to the IIM's irrespective of the fact that he/she has scored exceptionally well in the CAT? 3)Is there any minimum graduation score required? In the website they do say 50%, but I have known people who have scored a 75% in their graduation and scored exceptionally well in the CAT and not made it through any IIM.
      #256 • 19 Jun '12 Like
    • sameer44 @srikanth. completely agree
      #257 • 08 Nov '12 Like
    • DEVILISHANGEL @imcoolrvid: I couldn't have put it in better words. Frustration does get the writer out from all of us...:D but seriously, you said all the right things here :)
      #258 • 08 Nov '12 Like 1
    • VijayRawat Students ke dil ki baat bol di is article me...any one from IIM listening?
      #259 • 08 Nov '12 Like
    • hemanttiwari007 it means a person who does not have good academics should not apply for cat"""""""""""""""""""""""""""it's disgusting and i strongly condemn and lambaste this process of selection
      #260 • 11 Nov '12 Like 1
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    • happy3475 "There was a time when the 'best prepared' students used to adapt to the unpredictable CAT pattern on the spot and come out victorious"....the main reason WHY I LUVD CAT.....the reason why I thought CAT was worth a TRY..

      after Prometric, it has become so boring...I can still recall serial test takers [some would travel from far away places just to appear CAT....even though they had MBA from IIMs] appeared CAT just for the "MENTAL STIMULUS & FUN" that CAT provided....


      P.S.- There s a speculation that all the IIMs did not agree to move to the computer aided pattern. [though personally I dnt no much]
      #261 • 11 Nov '12 Like
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