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    Philip Kotler's marketing bible launches 14th Indian edition with Customer Value as central theme
    by Apurv Pandit in Philip Kotler, Marketing, Abraham Koshy on 01 November '12


    Prof Abraham Koshy with Dr Philip Kotler (Source: www.akoshy.in)

    Philip Kotler's book 'Marketing Management', considered to be the bible of marketing for anyone studying an MBA, was launched in its 14th South Asian edition on Wednesday with updated content and case studies themed around 'customer value' and covering rural marketing and digital marketing. PaGaLGuY did a quick interview with one of the co-authors of the South Asian edition Prof Abraham Koshy of the Indian Institute of Management (IIM), Ahmedabad (the other one being Prof Mithileshwar Jha of IIM Bangalore) to learn about the evolution of the book's local edition.

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    Why is there a separate South Asian edition of this book?

    This is not the first South Asian edition, it was launched for the first time back in 2006. This is a foundation book for anyone learning marketing, and not an advanced level book meant for those who are just starting out to learn it. Marketing across the world follows largely the same conceptual framework. But if these frameworks are not explained contextually, then students wouldn’t understand them. If they are explained using North American brands, then students will not relate to the material. So launching a South Asian edition is like customisation of the book for the local audience.

    How is marketing in South Asia different compared to the rest of the world?

    Marketing across the world follows a universal framework. But a few things are different. For example, rural marketing is not relevant in America. Other things such as the business environment and regulatory frameworks too are different here, and all these form the Indian context of marketing.

    What is 'customer value' and why did you choose it as the theme for this edition?

    In simple terms, customer value is all that which is considered as important by customers in a product or a service. Take ice cream for example. Whether customers consider its brand, or the packaging, the retail environment or the variety as more important, forms its customer value.

    We took this as the theme of this edition because the contemporary business environment considers customer value as important. It is believed that if customers get value then that leads to higher shareholder value too.

    How involved is Dr Philip Kotler in the creation of the South Asian edition?

    He is very involved and takes great interest in every change we make in the book. We are constantly in touch with him over email, to which he always replies promptly. I even met him this very March at a conference. He doesn’t outsource any part of working on the South Asian edition to anyone else or anything like that. He is as involved as any author would be.

    Which marketing successes in India in recent times would you consider as significant?

    There are many. The Vodafone Zoozoo and the Airtel ‘Har friend zaroori hota hai’ campaigns were significant examples of good communication strategy. Then Tata Docomo’s per-second pricing was a good example of pricing strategy. Tata Nano was a great example of how an innovative product resulted in significant process innovations that went into the design and production of the vehicle at the backend. In many ways, those process innovations were more innovative than the product itself.

    Do you follow how India’s b-schools market themselves to students? Do you think they are they doing it right?

    I don’t follow this sector much, you probably know more about it than me. But I see the b-school market in a shakeout phase right now than in the boom phase. There is too much of a crowd of imitators with very few frontrunners, like in a marathon race. Very few b-schools try to differentiate themselves from others. Some are differentiating themselves by using strategies like launching news and business magazines, but they have launched so many magazines now that it has stopped making any sense or helping that differentiation.

    What about the IIMs? While on one hand an IIM professor contributes to a top marketing book, the IIMs themselves are loath to communicating with applicants about the value of their flagship programmes, and seem to view marketing themselves with a disdainful eye. Comments?

    I don’t think there is any disdain for marketing the PGP within the IIM faculty. It’s just that there is such an over-demand for the PGP that advertising the programme to increase demand will not make any more people apply to it. It will be a waste of resources. It is not that the IIMs don’t advertise. The year that we launched the one-year PGPX programme, we advertised in both Indian and international media with advertisements having taglines such as “It takes Fortune 500 companies years to make it, but at IIM-A we take just one,” or “A country gets invaded for centuries. There must be a reason for it,” or “What would you like to learn from a country that gave the world Zero?” A professional agency was employed by us to write this advertising copy. So I don't believe that the IIMs are averse to advertising their own offerings.

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    • AbhiOfficial Adding to Vodafone,airtel,docomo.. i guess, Diary milk "kuch mitha ho jaye" is also a good marketing success
      #1 • 01 Nov '12 Like 2
    • soumik.ganguly Kotler had introduced us all (MBA passouts) to the term "Marketing" through models, definitions, and more. The trouble as we have come to understand as Marketing practitioners is that - most of those models for contemporary businesses and environment defined by the marketing-bible are now ineffective to define the new set of challenges that are prevalent today. Kotler was brilliant for the post-industrial-era requirements of businesses and markets defined by segments and price differentiation. Today, I don't find much significance. There is a whole lot of research on marketing tools, challenges, and models that have shown completely different approaches suggested in the book, and are followed for marketing excellent by some of the nest practitioners. MBA students should not close in their understanding to Kotler alone. Validation of these models in current perspective is important.
      #2 • 01 Nov '12 Like 13
    • sb29 @soumik.ganguly Agreed. But to understand the current challenges, students need to understand the foundations or basic concepts of Marketing, something that this book fulfills to a large extent. In fact, I still carry the 13th edition around with me. The sad fact is that it takes around 10 years for current research to reach to a basic text book. And sometimes it takes more. That is where research done by faculty members in an institute come into play. In top institutes abroad, professors bring their current research into classrooms. The other day, we were attending a talk by Prof. Sunil Gupta of Harvard. His entire ongoing research is based on real problems faced by companies and he makes it a point to discuss simplified versions of the research that he is doing with his MBA students. I think this is where the real differentiator lies. Otherwise, the same textbook is available to both HBS students and XZY Institute students.
      #3 • 01 Nov '12 Like 6
    • soumik.ganguly @sb29 Its great that you are in agreement to what I said, and also what you say is true. However, we should not miss the point here. The idea of a standardized text book (preaching models that are ineffective to define today's problems) as the one point source of knowledge for MBA grads is scary, because people get conditioned. This leads to situations that are prevalent today wherein Marketing is one of most mis-trusted departments across Organizations in the developed world (read on Big Data and its effects on marketing). The knowledge of models that are not effective shouldn't be in a phase of learning when people are trying to know which models work today. It's sad that Christensen (Harvard Univ) isn't read extensively across b-schools. It is also sad that the only thing other than Fin/HR/Sys/Ops available is "Marketing" whose basal definitions are still set in Kotler. The world needs better content and research, and the capability for MBA students to engage in better analytical research should be enforced rather than accepting pre-defined concepts and models. The idea that definitions of marketing-models of current times are located external to the perimeters of marketing parlance, needs to be accepted and embraced. I am against a standardized book used to standardized thinking and conditioning.
      #4 • 01 Nov '12 Like 4
    • aman21 hiiii,,,,,which edition shud i go for 13th or 14th,,,,?
      #5 • 02 Nov '12 Like
    • sb29 @aman21 13th edition is at least 4 years old now. If money is not a constraint, go for the 14th as it will have newer examples. If you want to go for 13th, you can probably look for 2nd hand. But, I would suggest that you buy the newest version.
      #6 • 02 Nov '12 Like
    • aman21 @sb29 thank you,,,,, any other marketing book u wud like to suggest,,,,,esp for cases
      #7 • 02 Nov '12 Like
    • sb29 @aman21 There are many examples in this book which can be considered as case-lets and which illustrates the application of the ideas discussed in the chapters. You can read those. I will not recommend any case book as such (even though there are some). Cases are meant to be analyzed and discussed in groups. I would suggest that you practice cases as per what your instructor suggests in the classroom instead of reading them on your own. Reading cases on your own is nothing but reading a story. You will enjoy reading it, but won't know what to do with it.
      #8 • 02 Nov '12 Like 3
    • rutvikpatel marketing is a practical subject and not a theoritical......!!
      #9 • 04 Nov '12 Like
    • sb29 @rutvikpatel That is not true. There is a lot of theory in marketing too. Just that people are not exposed to theoretical analysis of marketing at MBA level.
      #10 • 04 Nov '12 Like
    • rutvikpatel @sb29 no dude........i can give u one example for that.

      u studied lots and lots of theories in MBA in india but those are not applicable to understand USA customer or china customer... moreover customer keeps changing their mind and there is no universal theory to understand but different people interprete it in different ways
      #11 • 04 Nov '12 Like
    • sb29 @rutvikpatel So you think the theory of segmentation, targeting and positioning won't hold in China? Sure it would. The variables will change but the theory remains the same. What you are saying about cultural influence is true. The place where I am now is known for its research on cross cultural differences. We research on what additional factors may affect marketing theories in different cultures. But that does not mean the theories won't hold in those cultures at all. And as I said earlier, we are not exposed to theoretical analysis during MBA. You learn about theories only if you plan to do research on marketing.
      #12 • 04 Nov '12 Like
    • rutvikpatel @sb29 tell me one thing..... u know all the theories of marketing but if u don't knw when to apply its not of meaning.....

      at the same time there are so many marketers who runs very good business in their segment without knowing THEORIES OF MARKETING.... i can give u so many examples of that

      and practical subject in the sense u have to modify ur product or sometimes u hav to realize ur customer that what they actually want and that is d practical concept... i m agree with u in certain extent but not fully...
      #13 • 04 Nov '12 Like
    • sb29 @rutvikpatel That is like saying that because your mom makes good food without attending to a catering college, the culinary knowledge gained in a catering college is not worthwhile. But where did you mom learn the new recipies from? By watching some TV shows and reading magazines where 'experts' tell them what goes with what. Similarly these people also learn about marketing 'on-the-job' from others, not just in the organization, but also by interacting with others in the same industry. So, even though it is not direct knowledge transfer, there is an indirect learning of concepts. They may not be able to give you theoretical definition, but what they do can be mapped to some or the other marketing concept you have learned. What you are saying is correct and true for any field, not just marketing.
      #14 • 04 Nov '12 Like
    • rutvikpatel @sb29 excuse me..... mom's cooking is not a marketing.... and m talking abt other businesses...where they learn marketing by contacting a customer or getting a feedback...

      ok tell me one thing....how coca cola came up with so many fantabulous campaigns??? by d book of sir kotler??? no dude... m nt against the book....i really respect them but this is wht i think... according to me MARKETING is all about getting innovative techniques to get customer's trust...

      if u want i can give you some links of so many innovative ideas...

      and wht do u think...everytime managers seek book of marketing abt which theory suits to their business in this condition???
      #15 • 04 Nov '12 Like
    • sb29 @rutvikpatel Let's call it difference of opinion!
      #16 • 04 Nov '12 Like
    • arnabdutta77 Marketing is one of the most interesting subjects!! Studying books alone would not do. You need to go to the market to understand marketing!! One should not confine himself/herself to the theories of book.He/she is supposed to use his/her intelligence while solving marketing cases,the solution of which may not be found in the books!!
      #17 • 05 Nov '12 Like
    • rutvikpatel @sb29 right bro... by d way whts ur name yar?? under RTI i have right to know d name of person with whom m arguing...??? LOL
      #18 • 05 Nov '12 Like
    • sb29 <--- click to know more about me :) @rutvikpatel
      #19 • 05 Nov '12 Like
    • vip3r The IIMs do have a very potent marketing tool and they use it every year. Its called the placement report.
      #20 • 06 Nov '12 Like
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    • knox21ville thanks pg for deep insight
      and kudos
      f9lly an Indianised MM bbok out (Y)
      #21 • 06 Feb Like
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